background: progressivism is the official religion of the west.
USA is exporting it heavily to other countries.
two subject to investigate:
- what are the differences between USA and target countries
- how to get the society back on track
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superbly interesting observations.
since the thread spirals into a blackpill, let's see if we can shift it back to normal track
Separation of church and state is not possible. It just creates a selection pressure for religions to shed the spandrels named "church" and "god." And this is precisely what we see today -- a state religion with no church and no god
— Zero HP Lovecraft (@0x49fa98) December 31, 2019
background: progressivism is the official religion of the west.
USA is exporting it heavily to other countries.
two subject to investigate:
- what are the differences between USA and target countries
- how to get the society back on track
>It just creates a selection pressure for religions to shed the spandrels named "church" and "god."
key words: "selection pressure".
we want a counter-pressure for balance.
https://t.co/ww4tMecrYi
Separation of church and state is not possible. It just creates a selection pressure for religions to shed the spandrels named "church" and "god." And this is precisely what we see today -- a state religion with no church and no god
— Zero HP Lovecraft (@0x49fa98) December 31, 2019
also sometimes expressed as, "there is a god-shaped hole in human psyche"
https://t.co/KkmYcIMImb
We cannot escape religion and myth. All states are always theocracies, the only question is: whose gods? whose myths?
— Zero HP Lovecraft (@0x49fa98) December 31, 2019
“No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon." (new king james version)
did you tho?
𝗫 to doubt.
https://t.co/OGEQwQbRRR
In America we tried to create an explicitly agnostic state, but our founding fathers did not understand that religion is a living organism, and that all living things, like liquids, eventually taker the shape of their container
— Zero HP Lovecraft (@0x49fa98) December 31, 2019
what USA got right - righter than other countries anyway - was that to make mammon the official state 'religion'.
that's right, the humble and filthy greenback kept the actual, god-fearing religion away from the highest rungs of power.
rights are good. *entitlements* is where it went off the rails.
the feminists, the progressives, all the do-gooders propose ever more *entitlements* under the guise of "rights (to)".
https://t.co/yQqcJrG7Jp
There is not one religious tradition in USA, but two: the exoteric tradition is protestantism, and the esoteric one is humanism, the latter of which is the provenance of "freedom", "rights", "equality", etc.
— Zero HP Lovecraft (@0x49fa98) December 31, 2019
more than that, Christianity was built for *hierarchical* society, with mostly localized tribes.
it still works fine for that - as witnessed outside of the metropolies. federalism, republicanism, #RespectYourElders, all great. liberal democracy, nope.
https://t.co/yaAK2baG8A
It\u2019s possible to run Christianity on an enlightenment stack, but it wasn't designed for it. Christianity was built to run on monarchy, because the relationship of a king to his subjects reflects the relationship of God to man
— Zero HP Lovecraft (@0x49fa98) December 31, 2019
federalism eff yeah. unironically what made the early USA work so well 👌
pluralism was made possible through *localism* rather than through state-enforced "tolerance and civil rights".
https://t.co/SiSvxvkRLM
The USA civics patch allows multiple Christianities to run in one polity, but it introduces some critical security vulnerabilities and ultimately denatures that which it was meant to preserve
— Zero HP Lovecraft (@0x49fa98) December 31, 2019
"tolerance and civil rights" always runs afoul of inter-tribe conflicts. when two tribes point at each other "they are spoiling my life", the state is *forced* to choose one.
liberal democracy chooses the more reliable voter block, rather than the more moral tribe.
who gets to *deem* something "a religion" in the sense of 1A?
no seriously, who does? the SCOTUS might be able, but certainly would be *unwilling*.
https://t.co/P9mzy64MOH
It was only a matter of time before a someone developed a fork of protestant Christianity that could cross the church-state barrier. We call that fork \u201cprogress,\u201d and with a few tweaks to the phenotype it was able to capture the entire state
— Zero HP Lovecraft (@0x49fa98) December 31, 2019
looping back, there is "a selection pressure" - ever increasing since *the mammon* have been knocked down as the ideal.
i unironically say, bring the dollar back as the focal point. restore chasing earthly gains as the official, state-sanctioned american dream.
"but mark", i hear you object, "wouldn't that be superbly corrupting?"
funny you should say so in between Trump's terms.
the first candidate that the establishment could *not* corrupt. the wealth makes him independent, and he is the candidate of the people.
excellent observations. creating culture has a lasting impact.
https://t.co/PMswBsZQVE
Progress replaces the church service with the protest rally, the return of Christ with the moral arc of history, total depravity with implicit bias, and the crucifixion with the Holocaust (six million times more powerful than the original!)
— Zero HP Lovecraft (@0x49fa98) December 31, 2019
i would only add the *power* of having the women dress up. it's really important for core support.
bring back trad dress-ups.
not just the funny if a bit goofy ren fair, but more specifically the homemaker garb.
ah yes, the "civil righst" - along with "the great society" making the 3rd gutting of the republic.
the 2nd was Woodrow Wilson's stuff; pretty much all of it.
a lot to fix.
https://t.co/fheo06HkZV
In 1964, the civil rights act marked the total victory of the new progressive church over the government of the USA, ending the separation of church and state. https://t.co/J3FJ4tXMzG
— Zero HP Lovecraft (@0x49fa98) December 31, 2019
Ezra unintentionally pointing out the key indicators
https://t.co/0QfHvbdZPT
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— mark doppelg\xe4nger \U0001f6f0 (@DoppelMark) November 12, 2020
in which Ezra explains *how* the Republic died in 1960
TIL democracy is when:
>will of the majority is restricted
>freedom of association takes 2nd seat to minority privileges https://t.co/WbzhyZPdyp
but first, the most pressing issue that probably could be pushed through with popular support:
surprisingly enough: the freedom of association.
something so obvious it was never put in the constitution, and is now being used as a wedge issue
https://t.co/d7YHGpboRT
#ShouldBeInTheConstitution: Freedom of Association shall not be infringed.
— mark doppelg\xe4nger \U0001f6f0 (@DoppelMark) November 21, 2020
instantly fixes the problems of affirmative action, gender or racial quotas, bake the cake, busing, zoning for diversity, and many more *social experiments*. pic.twitter.com/LglOqIbFEY
fight that with the good old dollar.
https://t.co/bajfLO7wuF
One way we can tell progressive politics is essentially religious is to note this curious formula: the personal is political. Progress is not content with the non-overlapping magisteria of church and state. It demands that all facets of life be subjected to its moral calculus
— Zero HP Lovecraft (@0x49fa98) December 31, 2019
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— r a y a \U0001f319 (@lcvelylilith) February 20, 2020
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— \u2745\u1710\u170b\u1713\u170e (@uglyluhan) June 16, 2019
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