BC OPTION SELLING

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Nikita Poojary
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I have taken 4000+ trades in the past 3 years as an Option Seller.

Here are the 11 mistakes I've made in my journey, that you desperately need to avoid: 🧵

Collaborated with @AdityaTodmal

1/ Level-Based Trading on non-expiry days:

On expiry days all OTM options are going to go to zero, so you can take a bet on a particular level for a high reward.

But on the other days, the spikes are just too much, especially in this low-Vix environment.

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Nikita Poojary
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Time for a Thread🧵On yesterday’s “F&O Pe Charcha - Diary Of An Option Seller” with @Mitesh_Engr by @Paytm Money

Why Gain/loss ratio is important that the batting average
• More than the Win Loss ratio check the total Gain /loss ratio
• If your avg loss is 1% and avg gain is +5% then even if you are losing in 7 positions and winning in 3 out of 10 still you will be net profitable

Treat Trading as a business:
• Stick to a single strategy. Eg: A restaurateur usually wouldn’t be changing his recipe on a daily basis
• Mitesh Sir only works on BO or BD strategy, as he is a versatile trader

• Any trader should atleast experience 3 scenarios i.e. bull, bear & consolidation
• Target 4% per month i.e. 48% p.a.
• Option buying requires skill, everyday there wont be huge momentum, so buying options won’t yield good results, but high chances of falling into a bad habit

Stock Selection:
• In F&O segment there are ~150 stocks
• Not everyday all stocks will move
• Only 5-7 stocks move upside or downside
• Focus only these momentum stocks
• Check which one is moving
• Range BO/BD never disappoints. BO/BD from a rectangle (consolidation)

Nikita Poojary
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Undisputed champion 🏆 in option selling and undoubtedly India's best trader @Mitesh_Engr Sir

Lessons on how to trade in such difficult times from the Indian Options Conclave 3.0 by Jainam Broking Ltd

Time for a🧵

Collaborated with @AdityaTodmal

How to trade in options during high volatility i.e. India vix>22-23 ?

In the current scenario, option sellers who are deploying strangles are unable to make money

E.g.: If a trader is selling a strangle of Rs. 100 each leg then during a fast momentum on either side, one leg becomes 80 & the other one Rs. 200
So overall, the strangle seller is at a loss

Strangles & Straddles are easy to manage in low vix

During high vix, find reversals

Mitesh Sir follows 3min TF in Bank nifty futures chart

Specimen:

In a down trending market people are tempted to sell CE & avoid selling PE's, however it would be disastrous to hold those CE's till expiry

Trailing is the answer during high VIX, as the momentum is faster on both sides

Check past few days charts on 3min TF for more clarity

Nikita Poojary
@niki_poojary

1000 days ago, I started learning about Support & Resistance.

Here are 10 pointers from Support and Resistance that'll get you started in the next 3 mins: 🧵

Collaborated with @AdityaTodmal

1/ Understanding Support and Resistance:

• Support levels indicate where there will be a surplus of buyers.

• Resistance levels indicate where there will be a surplus of sellers.

• When the price moves up and then pulls back, the highest point reached before it pulled back is now resistance.

• When the price continues up again, the lowest point reached before it started back is now support.

2/ What is a Support:

• Support is the level at which demand is strong enough to absorb the supply.

• The price is likely to bounce back and moves up in the opposite direction.

• Support is a level where the demand from buyers is expected to be much higher than sellers.

3/ What is a Resistance:

• It is the opposite of a support level.

• It is a price point (ceiling) at which the stock price is not expected to rise any higher.

• Resistance is a price point at which there are more sellers than buyers in the market for a particular stock.

Nikita Poojary
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Options trading is luring a lot of inexperienced traders who are looking for supernormal gains.

However, most of them end up losing money as they aren't familiar with the basics yet.

8 basics you must know before placing your next trade 🧵:

Collaborated with @AdityaTodmal

1/ Option Premium consists of two things:

i) Intrinsic value which represents how much money the option would be worth if it were to expire right now.

ii) Time value represents the premium you pay since the option does not expire right now.

2/ Intrinsic value:

•It is the difference between the strike price and the asset's current market price when the difference is positive.

•Intrinsic value for ITM calls> 0.

•Positive payoff for the buyer.

3/ Example of identifying ITM options:

4/ Time value aka Theta:

• Theta represents the time value decline of an options contract.

•Time value is the additional amount over & above Intrinsic value.

•Time value on an option with 20 days to expiry > Time value on an option with 2 days to expiry.

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Time for a Thread🧵On yesterday’s “F&O Pe Charcha - Diary Of An Option Seller” with @Mitesh_Engr by @Paytm Money

Why Gain/loss ratio is important that the batting average
• More than the Win Loss ratio check the total Gain /loss ratio
• If your avg loss is 1% and avg gain is +5% then even if you are losing in 7 positions and winning in 3 out of 10 still you will be net profitable

Treat Trading as a business:
• Stick to a single strategy. Eg: A restaurateur usually wouldn’t be changing his recipe on a daily basis
• Mitesh Sir only works on BO or BD strategy, as he is a versatile trader

• Any trader should atleast experience 3 scenarios i.e. bull, bear & consolidation
• Target 4% per month i.e. 48% p.a.
• Option buying requires skill, everyday there wont be huge momentum, so buying options won’t yield good results, but high chances of falling into a bad habit

Stock Selection:
• In F&O segment there are ~150 stocks
• Not everyday all stocks will move
• Only 5-7 stocks move upside or downside
• Focus only these momentum stocks
• Check which one is moving
• Range BO/BD never disappoints. BO/BD from a rectangle (consolidation)

Nikita Poojary
@niki_poojary

Few weeks ago @Ronak_Unadkat Sir conducted an exclusive session for me & @adityatodmal to explain how he trades.

He was kind enough to share all his trade strategies and was patient enough to answer our doubts.

Thought of making a 🧵for the benefit of the larger audience here.

Sir's Option Selling Logic 🧵:
• Reversals in Intraday Option selling
• Strike Selection & SL
• Hedging for any Black Swan Event
• Positional Option selling
• Ratio Spreads
• How to manage the positions
• Capital mgmt

In collaboration with @AdityaTodmal

How to play reversals
• Always look at the chart as a starting point
• Spot the Swing low
• Sell Strikes 300-400 points below that swing low
• Buy a proper hedge

• Example on how to play reversals on Intraday
• Instead of the selling the support strike sell a bit far

• As the strike is far from the support you get enough cushion

• As soon as the SL is hit, you can exit the positions

• without your strike coming into ITM

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Pran Katariya
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The Straddle is my favorite trade these days. But more often than not, one needs to adjust to make a good return from it. There are many ways to do this depending on your view, psychology and imagination. Will discuss a few that I use

The Straddle is a delta neutral strategy and it is important to keep deltas in check during the course of the Trade and not let them run away from you. Of course Volatility is the elephant in the room- but not going there as that will require a separate discussion

The first and most common method is to go 'inverted.' That is to say to shift the untested side to generate additional Premium and increase the runway to Breakeven. So if you start with a Straddle at 700 and price goes to 740, you can move the PE up to say 720.

How much should you move the untested side? While again this is a matter of skill, experience and artistry, the rule of thumb is to cut deltas by half. Remember, prices will move and you have to allow sufficient room for them to fluctuate

The second method is to shift the entire Straddle in the direction of the move. So if you have a 700 Straddle and Price goes to 740, you can shift the Straddle to 720. If you time this right, it can generally be done at virtually no cost or minimal cost.

Nikita Poojary
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How to make 1% consistently via Option Selling?

• Analyzing the trend
• Selling OTM's
• Making adjustments
• Capturing trending move
• Without big drawdowns
• Right Position Sizing
• Risk Management

Here are the 11 aspects to focus on:

Collaborated with @AdityaTodmal

1. Analyze the trend:

To begin with, determine whether Bank Nifty is trending, consolidating, or stuck in a range.

Why?

Cause we can predict what it will do then.

2. How many points to capture?

The margin required for selling one lot is around Rs. 1.5 lakh for a strangle.

If we earn around Rs. 1500 on one lot, we would make 1% return on our capital.

1500/25 = 60 points

Either sell directional 60 and make it zero.

Or 30-30 both sides.

3. How do we begin in the weekly expiry?

Can tend to skip Friday's as there are two days holiday.

In those 2 days market has ample time to come out with news, react to SGX and so forth.

So from a R:R perspective it is not great to carry from Friday.

Even the decay isn't huge if you see unless there's a big gap and you are on the correct size of it.

The Weekly candle also is from Monday to Friday.

So at Friday EOD we know how the weekly candle looks as well.

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Again sharing bank nifty intraday weekly straddle. How to play by selling straddle.
Mostly will work on Monday to Wednesday. Sometimes on Friday.
Why to pay your money to learn this if u can get it here.
U need only practice.
Let’s go.

Say bank nifty future is at 32000.
Sell both 32000 call and put.
Considering current volatile market lest say premium on Monday morning is 350 on both sides.
Sold with 700 points combine premium.
If bank nifty will trade in narrow range say +\- 100 hold it.
If moving 200 points

then exit previous sold straddle. Sell new one. Let’s say BN moved +200
Now sell 32200. If bank nifty will move here within range then u will get profit through theta decay. Follow same procedure for next 150-200 pts move.

This is only for single straddle sell position.

Now in second case sell three straddle. 31900/32000/32100
In case of 100 points move no need to change.
If 200 + then future is 32200.
Exit 31900 and sell 31200 straddle.
If moving another 100 then exit 32000 and sell 32300. Continue same with 100 points move.
If no move then

it will consolidate between 32000-32200 or 32100 to 32300 and u will get theta decay.

This is for normal move. Sudden big move may come anytime. So keep SL in system.
If u r selling at 350-350 then keep SL in system 475 for both legs.
Practice it. No need to attend webinar.

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