#BombayHighCourt begins hearing the plea of Sunaina Holey accused of making objectionable statements against Maharastra Chief Minister Uddhav Thackeray and Cabinet Minister Aaditya Thackeray.

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Adv. Abhinav Chandrachud answers the query of the court asking the parties to present the stand of other democratic countries on the statements made on WhatsApp or Twitter.
Chandrachud relied upon judgments of US Courts to submit that when similar statments against the government were made, a US court took a stand that the statement needs to be rectified and not arrested.
Chandrachud relied upon the judgment of the Supreme Court in the matter of Amish Devgan wherein the court observed that if it is a prominent person like a news channel anchor or a public figure, they have to observe higher amount of responsibility before making statement.
Chandrachud: My client (@SunainaHoley ) is not a public figure and hence her statements if incorrect can be rectified by the concerned authority. She need not be arrested.
Chandrachud submits the Supreme Court while considering the Shreya Singhal case had considered if any public disorder has been caused by the words if the accused in that case.

Chandrachud: in the present case there is no public disorder caused by the objected tweets.
Court: What does she do? Professionally?

Chandrachud: She is a consultant, advises companies. She is an MBA graduate.

I understood when you milords asked me the question. She is not a leader of any opposition party, or any other political organisation.
Senior Counsel Manoj Mohite appearing for State interjects: She is a professional tweeter, I can prove it.

Chandrachud: Milords her twitter bio space mentions that she is a follower of RSS, and some otber things, but that does not mean she is a leader.
Chandrachud: There are many such followers on Twitter, they are not all leaders.
Chandrachud referring to another Supreme Court judgment says: The words must be judged by the claim of its matural meaning, cannot interpret words too much.

There could be many interpretations of a verse written by a poet.
Justice SS Shinde hearing the plea points out that the Supreme Court had refused to quash FIRs filed against him and had refused to accept the similar arguments made therein.
https://t.co/VBdiWPh7A7
Chandrachud: Yes Milord. Infact they considered Devgan's apology as an admission of guilt.
The fact that he had apologised meant that he was guilty of usung a derogatory term for a Sufi saint.
Chandrachud reads a judgment of the US Supreme Court discussing the difference between incitement and advocacy and how both have to be dealt with differently.

Chandrachud: Merely advocating an opinion is not inciting the public.
Chandrachud asks the court if he can continue as it is almosy 5.30 pm.

Court asks him to continue tomorrow as there is a meeting now.
Matter to be heard tomorrow at 4.15 pm.
Hearing ends.

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The story notes that the EOIR Director served as an ICE attorney in Atlanta and practiced before Cassidy for years. And it points to FOIA records unearthed by Bryan Johnson showing they remain friendly.

A trove of complaints against Cassidy was published by AILA in 2019 after FOIA litigation. They generally show misconduct, substantiated in the record, followed by "written counseling" etc.

One way Cassidy could avoid discipline is by turning off the recording device during the hearing. If he made a lewd or offensive comment off the record, all the EOIR would do is listen to the recording. If it's not there, the complaint is "unsubstantiated" https://t.co/wUeBPEEbpV


In that case, Cassidy joked about a detained immigrant saying he missed his wife. The complaint was dismissed because the ACIJ found "no levity or joking" in the comment.
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Judge Paula Grey is president of the Gender Recognition Panel

She doesn't make any recommendations, but she sets out how the process currently works

Which chimes with my analysis of the GRP User Panel and statistics
https://t.co/XixEz7lNJv

She is also co-author if the Equal Treatment Bench Book and writes about how the judges are trained by Gendered Intelligence


There is the government's own response

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On single sex spaces they say the law is clear that service providers are able to restrict access to spaces on the basis of biological sex where there is clear justification.


The response from @womensaid is significant.

Their members want trans survivors to get support they need but not by undermining their ability to serve women with female staff & female only services

They highlight lack of clarity

https://t.co/p7096sZcos


This was their position in 2015

They have moved on alot - they have been consulting with members since last year, and have had the courage to say what their members told them, not what Stonewall wanted to

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