[thread] on "sovereignty"
"Some fears have been expressed that if Britain joins the Common Market she will cease to be able to formulate her own foreign policy and will lose her separate identity. "
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Let's unpack this
"Since Brussels is convinced"
I like that
Personalise it to Brussels
Not 27 EU nations, our friends, neighbours
"convinced that leaving is an unprecedented act of self-harm"
it has been an act of self-harm
see the damage so far
see why no deal has to be sold as an Australia style deal
see why it has to be hidden within the "massive success" of covid
"it could be proved right"
See UK government forecasts
Not a single one positive
See Liz Truss - unable to explain how any trade deal will make us better off
But not to worry we will "mightily prosper"
"I don't see why they want to crib and confine the UK"
The UK is asking for a deal
The EU will offer one
If the UK doesn't like it well perhaps you should have thought of that before selling simplist fantasy bullshit to lie to voters
Let's unpack this
Since Brussels is convinced that leaving the EU is an act of unprecedented self-harm -- and it could be proved right, we'll see -- I don't understand why they want to crib and confine the UK within their imperial regulatory reach in perpetuity. Why bother with a basket case?
— Andrew Neil (@afneil) December 11, 2020
"Since Brussels is convinced"
I like that
Personalise it to Brussels
Not 27 EU nations, our friends, neighbours
"convinced that leaving is an unprecedented act of self-harm"
it has been an act of self-harm
see the damage so far
see why no deal has to be sold as an Australia style deal
see why it has to be hidden within the "massive success" of covid
"it could be proved right"
See UK government forecasts
Not a single one positive
See Liz Truss - unable to explain how any trade deal will make us better off
But not to worry we will "mightily prosper"
"I don't see why they want to crib and confine the UK"
The UK is asking for a deal
The EU will offer one
If the UK doesn't like it well perhaps you should have thought of that before selling simplist fantasy bullshit to lie to voters
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Two excellent questions at the end of a very sensible thread summarising the post-Brexit UK FP debate. My own take at attempting to offer an answer - ahead of the IR is as follow:
1. The two versions have a converging point: a tilt to the Indo-pacific doesn’t preclude a role as a convening power on global issues;
2. On the contrary, it underwrites the credibility for leadership on global issues, by seeking to strike two points:
A. Engaging with a part of the world in which world order and global issues are central to security, prosperity, and - not least - values;
B. Propelling the UK towards a more diversified set of economic, political, and security ties;
3. The tilt towards the Indo-Pacific whilst structurally based on a realist perception of the world, it is also deeply multilateral. Central to it is the notion of a Britain that is a convening power.
4. It is as a result a notion that stands on the ability to renew diplomacy;
5. It puts in relation to this a premium on under-utilised formats such as FPDA, 5Eyes, and indeed the Commonwealth - especially South Pacific islands;
6. It equally puts a premium on exploring new bilateral and multilateral formats. On former, Japan, Australia. On latter, Quad;
Both the @ChathamHouse and @Policy_Exchange reports are excellent and leave a healthy tension to the UK foreign policy debate. I\u2019m left with two questions that won\u2019t go away. Is the first underestimating how the world has changed. Is the second overestimating Britain\u2019s capacity?
— Ben Judah (@b_judah) January 11, 2021
1. The two versions have a converging point: a tilt to the Indo-pacific doesn’t preclude a role as a convening power on global issues;
2. On the contrary, it underwrites the credibility for leadership on global issues, by seeking to strike two points:
A. Engaging with a part of the world in which world order and global issues are central to security, prosperity, and - not least - values;
B. Propelling the UK towards a more diversified set of economic, political, and security ties;
3. The tilt towards the Indo-Pacific whilst structurally based on a realist perception of the world, it is also deeply multilateral. Central to it is the notion of a Britain that is a convening power.
4. It is as a result a notion that stands on the ability to renew diplomacy;
5. It puts in relation to this a premium on under-utilised formats such as FPDA, 5Eyes, and indeed the Commonwealth - especially South Pacific islands;
6. It equally puts a premium on exploring new bilateral and multilateral formats. On former, Japan, Australia. On latter, Quad;