If you say "there's no proof," they say "they hide it."
I can't find the clip from yesterday where I tried a new approach to debunking Trump's big lie conspiracy about the election, but I'm going to try to write it in here. (thread)
If you say "there's no proof," they say "they hide it."
Of course motivated reasoning & confirmation bias are at work here. What's worse, conspiracy makes heroes out of the accuser and the believers--they aren't stooges, they know the truth, etc.
Isn't there a simpler answer? There is. Trump lost.
This way of framing it might cause some cognitive dissonance in conspiracy supporters.
Perhaps Occam's Razor can cause enough doubt that his followers wonder if they should believe.
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