1. What is an iron fly
2. Perks and Drawbacks
3. What to do when in profit?
4. How to adjust when in loss?
5. Thread on How to keep shifting an iron fly for max credit?
6. Risk-free trades benefits
Let's dive in ↓
The most valuable hedging strategy you aren't using:
The IRON FLY STRATEGY.
Knowing how to use it will protect you from gaps and intraday spikes and 10x your hedging experience.
Here's the step-by-step guide:
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1. What is an iron fly
2. Perks and Drawbacks
3. What to do when in profit?
4. How to adjust when in loss?
5. Thread on How to keep shifting an iron fly for max credit?
6. Risk-free trades benefits
Let's dive in ↓
Sell ATM CE and PE (Short straddle)
Buy OTM CE and PE (Hedge it by buying on both sides)
Look at the picture below for an example of an iron fly in current weekly options.
Many traders want to receive maximum theta or max credit.
This is why they sell straddles.
But straddles have unlimited risk in them, and can't handle gaps or intraday spikes.
This is why traders like knowing the maximum loss in their trades.
Low capital required—Possible to buy first, sell later
Limit losses—Know your maximum loss upfront
Adjustments—Can reduce losses to zero or almost nothing
Weekly earnings—Possible on a weekly basis
Jackpot—Potential for a jackpot if it expires in middle
Low Probability—If you want a low max loss, the probability is less than 30%
Higher Brokerage costs—Since there are 4 legs and then you will add 3-4 more to adjust costs will be higher
Slippages—Want to free margin from itm strikes, slippages are high
Apply price action and combine your strategy along with your view and technical analysis.
If good in technicals, then can increase the odds of success.
This will fetch you more money than blindly selling iron flies every week.
Technicals increase ROI.
When in profit usually, traders square off their buy legs and buy 1-2 strikes closer.
The aim is to—make the maximum losses even lower than when you started the trade.
Once this is very low, can even stay in the trade for a jackpot.
Since the initial range is small, when in loss, traders want to extend the range of the fly.
They pump in more capital and open another iron fly or a broken wing fly (buy just one side and not two like iron fly).
This way the payoff becomes better.
There are multiple ways for different scenarios.
Very good content on Youtube regarding this.
I will have to do another thread on just the adjustments.
I already mentioned that if you are good at technicals you can use iron fly to have a very good risk-reward trade on your hands.
For eg, in the current week, if your view was bullish instead of selling ATM straddles, you sold 4-5 few strikes above ATM.
I found good content about them on @kapildhama Bhai & @SarangSood Sir's handles.
Both have been extensively doing iron flies for a few years.
Also attached Nitin Kamath's article on trading via strategies.
Shows you how to adjust an iron fly.
Intuitively understand what you are doing.
(@SarangSood)
https://t.co/S6r5IXy3dP
THREAD ON IRONFLY
— Sarang Sood (@SarangSood) December 12, 2020
These days the most preferred strategy for option sellers due to improved margins is IRONFLY. It's essentially a short straddle with long strangle. Long strangle acting as 'WINGS', which help in capping the unlimited risk associated with a short straddle.(1/n)
Can wait for a jackpot
Avoid getting out early with small profits, he believes if you book the strategy out fully in small profits
over the long run hard to make money
as we take full losses when wrong.
(@kapildhama)
https://t.co/RcSwZBknZh
Thread on Iron fly\U0001f447
— Kapil Dhama \U0001f1ee\U0001f1f3 (@kapildhama) August 19, 2021
Many people ask me what is the benefit if we make Iron Fly loss free
last week we made a 35900 Iron fly, and market closed at 35500, if we didn\u2019t make if loss free then we would get max 50 points and if market fall below 35500 then we will book loss
(1/4) pic.twitter.com/8wQ1uO7zCb
I asked @SarangSood Sir a question, he used to sell an iron fly before expiry day every week.
Good pointers from him and @kapildhama Bhai.
Can read this thread for their answers.
https://t.co/p28hU5LgIS
Why do you sell an iron fly every Wednesday? What are the perks of doing it versus selling naked?
— Aditya Todmal (@AdityaTodmal) August 29, 2020
I sell strangles 99% of the time. No hedge.
Which one is a better strategy to make more money on Thursday opening? @SarangSood
Sell next week straddles as they will have huge premiums.
Buy current week options to hedge them as they will be very cheap.
If anywhere near the center can make good money.
(@kapildhama)
(@shubham_quant)
https://t.co/k1GRkq1BCM
Even he has suggested trading through strategies keeps traders profitable over the longer run.
(@Nithin0dha)
https://t.co/qq5hePi9Ue
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Risk is defined , so at psychological🧠 level you are at peace🙋♀️
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5.Exit it one day before expiry or when you see more than 2% within the week.
5. High vix is preferred for iron fly
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Few important points on Iron fly stategy
This is fixed loss🔴 defined stategy ,so you are aware of your losses . You know your risk ⚠️and breakeven points to exit the positions.
Risk is defined , so at psychological🧠 level you are at peace🙋♀️
How to implement
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2. Take view of the market ,looking at daily chart
3. Then do weekly iron fly.
4. No need to hold this till expiry day .
5.Exit it one day before expiry or when you see more than 2% within the week.
5. High vix is preferred for iron fly
6. Can be executed with less capital of 3-5 lakhs .
https://t.co/MYDgWkjYo8 have R:2R so over all it should be good.
8. If you are able to get 6% return monthly ,it means close to 100% return on your capital per annum.
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— Jig's Patel (@jigspatel1988) July 17, 2021
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I’ve always felt that the luckiest people I know had a talent for recognizing circumstances, not of their own making, that were conducive to a favorable outcome and their ability to quickly take advantage of them.
In other words, dumb luck was just that, it required no awareness on the person’s part, whereas “smart” luck involved awareness followed by action before the circumstances changed.
So, was I “lucky” to be born when I was—nothing I had any control over—and that I came of age just as huge databases and computers were advancing to the point where I could use those tools to write “What Works on Wall Street?” Absolutely.
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I’ve always felt that the luckiest people I know had a talent for recognizing circumstances, not of their own making, that were conducive to a favorable outcome and their ability to quickly take advantage of them.
In other words, dumb luck was just that, it required no awareness on the person’s part, whereas “smart” luck involved awareness followed by action before the circumstances changed.
So, was I “lucky” to be born when I was—nothing I had any control over—and that I came of age just as huge databases and computers were advancing to the point where I could use those tools to write “What Works on Wall Street?” Absolutely.
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