It's a slow, snowy afternoon. How about a 🧵 on "rationalists" & "rationalism"? I want to talk about what real rationalism might look like & what people devoted to rationalism might actually behave like--and how that differs from what you often see from self-styled rationalists.

Caveat up front: this is not about Slate Star Codex, which I haven't read regularly enough to have an opinion on, or about the recent controversy between SSC & the NYT. I'm more interested in the *idea* of rationalism (vs. the practice).
The core premise of rationalism, as I understand it, is simply that humans' cognitive machinery was not designed by evolution to find truth, but rather to advance the interests & welfare of the collective -- a Venn overlap, but not the same thing. Therefore ...
... reasoning well, both individually & as groups, requires special effort. It requires consciously trying to set aside the parochialism, biases, & other distortions that typically characterize our thinking -- resisting, to some extent, the dynamics of group membership/welfare.
That's all fine. I agree entirely that we should make special effort to reason well & to guard against the typical failures of reasoning to which we humans are prone. I believe it's the best (maybe only) way forward as a species. So far so good.
The real question is what that looks like in practice. And here we come to self-styled "rationalists." As someone who, in his youth, was a very stereotypical rationalist, who hung out with people who felt the same, I will just share my personal observation:
The people who talk most about how rational they are -- and how emotional you, their interlocutor, are clearly being (otherwise you'd see how right they are) -- are not the most rational. Rather, their "rationalism" appears to be compensation for their emotional illiteracy.
Whenever humans communicate, there are multiple channels being used. There's the straight, propositional meanings of the words, & then there's a whole other language of tone, implication, context cues, body language -- social & emotional info being exchanged.
Lots of smart young (esp. white) men are highly trained in the former but completely untrained in the latter, in fact taught that the latter is feminine & suspect. They are, in a nutshell, emotionally illiterate. They're always "saying the wrong thing" in that latter language...
... or failing to hear messages sent in that latter language. Their personal relationships suffer. And their response is to blame ... everyone else. To declare that second language illegitimate. To declare that ONLY propositional meanings that they consciously intend *count*.
This, in short, is what self-styled rationalism often (mostly?) is in practice: men, frightened & confused by the ambiguity of emotional & social communication, seeking to ban it, to declare it out of bounds, to frame their emotional illiteracy as a virtue.
We're all familiar with this type of dude. @AnnieLowrey called him Fact Guy. Also known as Reply Guy. I call him "I'm rational you're emotional" guy. The most notable thing about them is, they're some of the most emotional people you'll ever encounter! It's just that ...
... their primary emotions are anger & umbrage & outrage (which we all know are masculine & therefore not "emotional"). They are some of the most butthurt, quick-to-anger people you'll ever encounter. They are not, needless to say, paragons of reason.
So what's the point of all this? Well, I was reading @mattyglesias' post on all this, mostly nodding along, when I got to this spot, which started my red sirens flashing.

https://t.co/F1nEQfUOJN
I agree that, in general, people are often carried along by peer pressure to suppress or ignore certain points & focus on others. Groupthink is real. Lots of people lack the confidence or thick skin necessary to tack against their peers. Granted. HOWEVER.
Among the class of people most likely to deem themselves "rationalists," being "impolite" is not a deterrent, it's often the reward. Telling a bunch of people they're wrong & dumb -- especially the people who have made the rationalists feel emotionally illiterate -- feels good.
In fact, lots of self-styled rationalists view being smarter than the masses, above them, as core to their identity. They're not sheeple. They think independently. They LOVE telling all the smug swells who made them feel awkward in HS that *actually*, they're the dumb ones!
IOW, the people most likely to identify as rationalists need the *least* encouragement to be impolite. If anything, the goal of being impolite often subsumes & distorts their reasoning ability! They love that shit, just them & their rational friends mocking the deluded masses.
(I am deliberately not using any names here, so as not to get pulled into dumb fights, but I suspect everyone reading can name one or two of these folks right off the top of their head.)
So I would take a different turn than Matt took. I would say, if you are the kind of person who aspires to be rational, or who self-identifies as rational, the main danger you need to watch out for is not politesse but *self-deception*.
People conspicuously proud of their rationality (and often, at a subconscious level, angered & ashamed by their emotional illiteracy) are some of the people *most likely* to ignore their own logical leaps, fallacies, & inconsistencies -- most likely to self-deceive.
So if you are attracted to rationalism (as I am!), your primary obligation is not rudeness or insensitivity to group dynamics (you probably already have that covered) but ***humility***. You should be aware, at all times, that you too are probably falling short of True Reason.
If you truly take that humility on board, then you take a different perspective on how to make human affairs & societies more rational. The answer is *not* for a handful of bros to train themselves to be Übermenschen, super-reasoners, & then lecture the rest of us.
Once you acknowledge the frailty & fallibility of individual reasoners (yourself included), you realize that the most important collective task is to learn how to reason better *together*, how to develop practices & institutions that guide us toward reason.
You realize no individual reasoner (or special group of "rationalists") is ever going to be reliable over the long-term. We're all human. The only hope is inscribing the practices & values of truth-finding into institutions that transcend any set of individuals.
You also realize that unreason is never going to be banished by the Ultimate Bro Lecture. No person/institution/group ever perfectly instantiate reason. We're not going to evolve into a species of perfect reasoners. Irrationality is an ineradicable feature of human societies.
Attempts to suppress or ban or stigmatize human parochial passions and group loyalties -- however technically irrational they may be -- will only result in tyranny & backlash. Attempts to engineer them out of ourselves will end in tears.
So the best we can hope for is to adopt values & design institutions that *encourage* reason on the margins, that nudge us in that direction. We cannot suppress or eliminate parochial passions, so we must accommodate them, manage them, as best we can. Meliorism.
And here we get to the central irony: if you truly understand humans, Reason leads you to support practices & institutions that, in their fuzziness, their accommodation of parochialism, their fallibility & partiality, *make self-styled rationalists uncomfortable*.
Self-styled rationalists favor clarity, right angles, lack of ambiguity. But fuzziness & messiness are core parts of humanity that must be designed around. A world built by Reason, for actually existing humans, is not necessarily going to celebrate or elevate rationalists!
A world built by Reason will not be ruled by a council of tech bros. It will be small-d democratic, messy, iterative, flawed, humble, biased toward compassion over judgment. That's what's effective in actual human affairs -- ie, that's what's rational!
In other words, if rationalists really cared about being rational, they'd become democratic socialists.

Sorry this got so long.

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Back in Aug 2016, I started creating content to share my experiences as an entrepreneur.
Over 3 years I had put out 1,200+ hours of content - posting every week without


Little did I know that something I started almost 4 years back would give my life an entirely new direction.

At the end of 2019, my biggest platform was LinkedIn with ~700K followers.

In Jan 2020, I decided to build a team that would help me with the content.

I ran a month long recruitment drive to hire a team of interns.

It comprised 4 detailed rounds - starting with my loved 20 questions, then an assignment, then a WhatsApp video round and finally F2F.

Through 1,200+ applications, I finally selected 6 profiles, starting March.

I am a firm believer in @peterthiel's one task, one person philosophy
So the team was structured such that everyone was responsible for ONLY one task

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3. Video editing
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This response to my tweet is a common objection to targeted advertising.

@KevinCoates correct me if I'm wrong, but basic point seems to be that banning targeted ads will lower platform profits, but will mostly be beneficial for consumers.

Some counterpoints 👇


1) This assumes that consumers prefer contextual ads to targeted ones.

This does not seem self-evident to me


Research also finds that firms choose between ad. targeting vs. obtrusiveness 👇

If true, the right question is not whether consumers prefer contextual ads to targeted ones. But whether they prefer *more* contextual ads vs *fewer* targeted

2) True, many inframarginal platforms might simply shift to contextual ads.

But some might already be almost indifferent between direct & indirect monetization.

Hard to imagine that *none* of them will respond to reduced ad revenue with actual fees.

3) Policy debate seems to be moving from:

"Consumers are insufficiently informed to decide how they share their data."

To

"No one in their right mind would agree to highly targeted ads (e.g., those that mix data from multiple sources)."

IMO the latter statement is incorrect.
Part of what is going on here is that large sectors of evangelicalism are poorly equipped to help people deal with basic struggles, let alone the ubiquitous pornography addictions that most of their men have been enslaved to for years.


On the one hand, there's a high standard of holiness. On the other hand, there's a model of growth that is basically "Try Harder to Mean it More." Identify the relevant scriptural truth & believe it with all of your sincerity so that you may access the Holy Spirit's help to obey.

Helping sincere believers believe and obey the Bible facts is pretty much all the Holy Spirit does these days, other than convict us of our sins in light of the Bible facts.

If you know you are sincere and hate your sin and believe the right Bible facts as hard as you can but continue to be enslaved to your pornography addiction, what else left for you to do? Just Really, Just Really, Just Really Trust God and Give it to Him?

To suggest that there are other strategies available sounds to those formed in this model of growth like one is also suggesting that the Bible is insufficient, but it also suggests something just as threatening- that there are aspects of reality that are not immediately apparent.

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